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Virtual Macedonia Bookstore - Poitiers AD 732: Charles Martel turns the Islamic tide (Campaign)
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Manufacturer: Osprey Publishing
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Binding: Paperback
Brand: Osprey Publishing Limited
Dewey Decimal Number: 944.013
EAN: 9781846032301
ISBN: 184603230X
Label: Osprey Publishing
Manufacturer: Osprey Publishing
Number Of Items: 1
Number Of Pages: 96
Publication Date: 2008-02-19
Publisher: Osprey Publishing
Release Date: 2008-02-19
Studio: Osprey Publishing
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Summary: Historically Accurate but Confusing to Read
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If this book were rated solely on its historical content, it would receive five stars. Unfortunately, this book is reduced to a three star rating due to its confusing maps, uninformative photos, and disjointed style of writing. The content of the book appears to be very accurate. The author, David Nicolle, makes a concerted effort to distinguish between what is known and what is theory. He should be given credit for doing a good job given the limited amount of information available on this battle.
First, the maps could have been a little better. They are cluttered with too much useless information. If a place is mentioned in the text (e.g.: a certain river) then that feature should be marked on the map. Unfortunately, some useful landmarks were left off. Other landmarks, which are irrelevant to the narrative, are included on the maps. The map on pg. 54 outlines the final approach routes used by both armies prior to the battle. The map legend separates the various waypoints into two sections, one pertaining to the Islamic army and one for the Christian force. Each section has a marker for the battle of Poitiers. Thus the map itself has two markers on the same spot for the battle, one referencing the Muslim army section and one for the Christian section. The map is needlessly cluttered with two markers for the same event when one marker would do. One of the 3D graphic maps has an error that is just sloppy editing. On Pg. 66, the map text directs the reader to refer back to another map on pg. 58. Unfortunately, there is no map on pg. 58.
The photos could also have been a little better. Although the book has some very good photos, it also has useless ones. Pg. 64 has a black and white photo of a badly damaged Umayyad painting. The reader will have difficulty identifying the images. Were this a color photo, the reader might more easily identify the relevant figures. On Pg. 65, the book has a modern day photo of the city of Bordeaux. This photo, however, adds absolutely nothing to the narrative of the battle.
Despite these shortcomings, Mr. Nicolle can be given credit for writing a historically accurate book. The information on this battle is limited and written in the form of poetry. The author, however, goes the extra mile in describing what is based on archeological evidence and what is just theory. He often notes that a certain event probably happened one way but could also have happened another way at a different location. Despite this lack of information, the author did a good job of writing a coherent narrative.
The author does a great job of describing the political events that both preceded and followed the battle. These include the internal conflicts of the Islamic Umayyad Caliphate and the Merovingian Frankish Kingdom. The "Aftermath" chapter is very enlightening. It describes how Charles Martel's victory eventually led to the further expansion of Carolingian power in the region under Charlemagne. In addition, the Muslim defeat tarnished their image of invincibility and allowed for revolts in North Africa by the Berbers.
Bottom line: this is a historically accurate book. The author did a superb job of combining fact and theory into a comprehensive narrative. Unfortunately, the reader will be distracted by some of the maps, photos, and overall editing. That said, if the reader is willing to plow through these distractions, they will ultimately find the book informative.
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Summary: Rare title on pivotal battle between cultures.
Comment: Author does a good job of "setting the stage" for Poitiers not simply as a battle, but as a campaign. The treatment of the motivations and objectives for all (not simply "both") sides is well done. Author shows this conflict from a campaign standpoint and does it fairly well, showing the conflicts/rivalries between Charles Martel and Prince Eudes of Aquitaine as well as the internal conflicts on the Muslim side.
Unlike the author, who steers clear of calling this a battle between cultures, most others including myself would propose the world would be a different place had Charles Martel not won this battle.
I would like to have read more from the author in the way of weapons and tactics of the combatants, how they differed, and how they affected the battle given the terrain the battle was fought upon. But, I realize that this is a campaign book and those subjects are of secondary importance.
A good work with the usual excellent Osprey color plates and photos. Works on this battle are few and far between and this is a good overview on the subject.
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Summary: Difficult task...
Comment: David Nicolle is one of the foremost medievalists alive. This time he had a particularly difficult task: write a book about a campaign that the few sources are unreliable, biased, fragmentary, toponimical, folklore, etc. The author makes an heroic effort to frame the campaign in the political context, revealing interesting features that are rarely mentioned, for example the Berber as second class citizens (that eventually led to a serious rebellion on North Africa and Iberian peninsula), Aquitaine as rival to Charles Martel, The importance of prince Eudes in stopping the expansion of the Ummayad, a few years before the Poitiers campaign,the type of warfare in the marks - razzia (raids, curious (altough logic) that the portuguese term razia his so similar to the arab), and even the location of the battle midway between Poitiers and Tours.
Some disadvantages: because of the scarcity of reliable data, the description of the battle is extremely short; the armies should be more detailed because the armies of the Ummayad werent horse archers, and the Franks werent heavy knights, there is little effort to destroy those myths; the campaign maps altough very good, incorporate theories that aren't proved at all by the sources as facts (although in the text everything is quite clear).
The art is quite good and overall it's a good book. Specially interesting for the political overview, because Mr. Nicolle, although a great historian, can't work out miracles with so little evidence.
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Summary: Well-Written Look at a Controversial Battle
Comment: In Osprey's Campaign No. 190, veteran medieval historian David Nicolle tackles the controversial Battle of Poitiers (also known as Tours) in 732, where Charles Martel defeated a Muslim invasion of France. Traditionally, the battle was viewed as a `decisive engagement' that stopped the Muslim conquest of France (and the rest of Europe) in its tracks. However, the historical impact of the battle has now became fairly controversial, with one group of historians arguing that Poitiers (Tours) was decisive and the other that it was a battle of no great significance for a variety of reasons. To his credit, Nicolle does inform the reader about the broad outlines of these historiographical debates, although perhaps not airing as much evidence as say, the Wikipedia article on the same subject. As a battle narrative, readers familiar with Nicolle's style should know what to expect: nuance, not detail, as well as an erudite insight into the cultural and political milieu that generated the conflict rather than tactical descriptions. Nicolle is also very good in pointing out differences between 8th Century armies from later medieval armies, since many histories of this period have tended to frame it in later terms (e.g. emphasis on cavalry shock action) Overall, Poitiers is a decent history of an important but not well-covered battle, with some very good supporting maps, that provides a useful introduction to this phase of European warfare.
Poitiers begins with a 10-page introduction that sets the scene prior to the campaign, describing the Muslim conquest of Spain and the conflict between Merovingian France and the Aquitaine (southern France - independent kingdom at the time). The author also discusses the internal frictions in the Muslim camp between Arabs and Berbers brought over from North Africa (but used as second-class levy troops). The section on opposing commanders is short and focuses on the three main opponents: Charles Martel (Merovingian), Prince Eudes (Aquitane) and Abd al-Rahman al-Ghafiqi (the Muslim commander). Although the section on opposing armies is 11 pages long, it doesn't pack much detail. While you can't expect a detailed order of battle for a pre-Medieval army, the author here does not even attempt to guess at the size or composition of either army. A simple description such as `the Frankish army was strong in shock infantry' or the `Muslim army was strong in archery units' might have been helpful for the reader to assess the relative power of each opponent, although it is apparent that much of that information is just not available. The section on opposing plans is brief and operates on the premise (hypothesis) that the Muslim incursion into Aquitaine was a raid-in-force, not a full-scale invasion. Christian plans were defensive.
The author then launches into the campaign, with a description of the Muslim attack on Aquitaine in June 732, which resulted in the defeat of Prince Eudes and the capture of Bordeaux. Eudes retreated north to seek help from his erstwhile foe Charles Martel, while Muslim forces ravaged southern France. Once Aquitaine was devastated, the Muslims moved northward against the next target: France. This part of the volume, detailing the pre-battle maneuvers is quite good and provides interesting insight into operational level warfare in this era. The battle narrative per se is about 19 pages long and covers the united forces of Charles Martel and Eudes blocking the Muslim advance near Tours and then mounting a successful attack upon their camp, which kills their commander. The final sections detail the Muslim retreat to Spain and Charles Martel turning to internal affairs. Graphically, the volume is supported by six 2-D maps and two 3-D BEV tactical maps, as well as three nice battle scenes by Graham Turner. Perhaps the only real downside in this volume are the photographs, many of which are just awful - pictures of defaced wall paintings or damaged sculptures (is it human?) - used to represent period uniforms/weapons. I realize the difficulty in obtaining photos for this period, but Osprey could stock volumes covering this era with more artwork to fill in gaps. Using sub-standard images just detracts from the volume.
The author's narrative is well-written and cogent, but it may not be convincing. At times, the author appears to be an apologist for Muslim aggression, claiming the campaign was not an invasion but merely a raid. Apparently, rape, pillage and plunder is considered less an act of invasion rather than full-scale invasion. First, the raid hypothesis is damaged by the number of cities and towns - including Bordeaux, the capital of Aquitaine - that fell in the opening moves. Usually raids don't capture major cities. Second, the amount of area that was ravaged by Muslim forces in just two months indicates a fairly large force, which is reinforced by the fact that they weren't afraid to push deep into hostile territory. Normally raiding forces want to get in and get out, but the Muslim Army seemed content to stay on hostile territory until it was defeated. The information available suggests that the defeat of Aquitaine was seen by the Muslims as a preliminary move to a larger campaign, and had Charles Martel not intervened, the undefeated Muslim army would have been able to winter in Bordeaux in preparation for a renewed campaign in the next spring. Thus, without the Muslim defeat, it is fairly likely that the Muslim armies would have kept a base on the French side of the Pyrenees and picked up the next year where they left off. While Nicolle is correct that Muslim-Christian warfare did continue on this border for decades to come, he passes the opportunity to note that without a Christian victory at Tours, the situation may have been very different in the coming years.
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Summary: Good account of the campaign but dryily written
Comment: Poitiers AD 732 is another pretty decent title from Osprey Campaign series written by David Nicolle. The book follows the typical Osprey Campaign series format where the background information is given, leaders are discussed, armies are discussed and then you get into the heart of the campaign followed up by the aftermath. Its pretty standard stuff and this book does a good job. The research done in this book is pretty good and I have no real complaint about it.
But to be honest, David Nicolle is not my favorite Osprey author because he write so dry. His narrative really lack the element that make it an interesting read. The narrative often sounds like listening to your professor drone on as he talked to the blackboard for 45 minutes without stopping. It may be just me but in all his books, he writes without much passion or vigor.
The book take the position that Poitiers may be important but it was grossly over-hyped by past historians. The Islamic conquests were already ebbing by this time and it wasn't an actual invasion forces that Charles Martel defeated but a very large raiding force who quickly gave up their goods and retreated when they were defeated.
Despite of the dry narrative, I found the book to be pretty interesting overall since I am not all that familiar with the subject matter. The maps, drawings and photos all proves to be well done and helpful in spicing up the narrative. The book comes well recommended to anyone who got an interesting into this time period and since it is under 100 pages, it is well worth reading for information and insights to this campaign.
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In the early decades of the 8th century AD, Islamic forces were flooding into Europe through the Iberian peninsula, threatening Frankish and Burgundian territory and raiding it with ever-increasing ferocity. At the battle of Poitiers, also known as Tours, Christian forces under the Frankish leader Charles Martel "The Hammer" (grandfather of Charlemagne) confronted a massive invading Islamic army. The Franks were victorious, effectively halting the northward advance of Islam and preserving Christianity as the dominant faith in Europe. Expert medievalist David Nicolle draws on contemporary sources to reconstruct this turning-point battle, places it in its historical context and reviews its background and immediate and longer-term historical consequences.
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